Lisa Page explains "insurance policy"; Admits the "lack of evidence" at the start of the Trump-Russia investigation

Former FBI lawyer Lisa Page begins an in camera hearing at Capitol Hill on July 13, 2018. (Photo by Mark Wilson / Getty Images)

( – On August 15, 2016, less than three months before the presidential election, FBI Special Agent Peter Strzok sent to his extra-marital partner Lisa Page a text stating: "I want to believe the way you've traced Andy office – that he has no way to get elected – but I'm afraid we can not take that risk.It's like an insurance policy in the unlikely event that you would die before age 40. "

Then-Rep. Trey Gowdy asked Lisa Page to explain this text when she appeared before an in camera hearing last July. A transcript of this hearing was published this week.

"What is the clause that there is no way that it is elected?" Gowdy asked the page:

"Then I'll be honest: I do not remember," replied Page. "I do not remember exactly this event or this meeting."

"But I know a little sense that this text is supposed to reflect," said Page.

She explained that if Trump was not going to be elected president – an opinion shared by Page – she felt that there was no reason to aggressively pursue the counter-investigation. -Spying of Trump-Russia and the "sources of burns". But Strzok apparently did not want to take that risk. Page said that the "insurance policy" related to the pace of the fledgling survey – "how aggressive or not" should it be. (See his own words below.)

Page also said that on August 15, there was a "lack of evidence" in the new Trump-Russia survey:

"But at this point, you know, the 15th, it's the – literally, from the very beginning, so there is little evidence, because we are just beginning to understand whether the preaching is true or false, and who could ultimately be someone who, if it were true, would have been able to receive information "(Russians).

Page explained that there were regular discussions at the FBI "in which we were trying to find an answer to the question, is not it, is there anybody associated in the countryside working with the Russians to obtain damaging information about Hillary Clinton? "

"And as we are in August, we were very aware of the speed and sensitivity with which we had to work."

She continued:

So we had regular conversations to try to balance the answer as quickly as possible, yes, because if the answer is: he's a guy who's puffing up in a meeting with other people, all the better. so we do not need to worry about that, and we can all continue our life; if that's right, the Russians have co-opted someone with, you know, perhaps knowingly or unintentionally, it's incredibly serious, and we need to know it as quickly as possible.

And so what this text reflects is our type of continuous recording almost as to the speed of operation, the types of tools to use, trying to be as quiet as possible about it because we knew if little on what was true or false or what was going to happen, because, as you said, the investigation was in its infancy and that finally I was trying to counterbalance my point of view, in this case we do not need to go at breakneck speed because as long as it does not become president, the same threat to national security does not arise, n & # 39; Is not it?

So I mean, if he is not elected, to the extent that the Russians have agreed with his team members, we will continue to investigate this without even being president, because Whenever the Russians do anything with an American person, we care about it, and it is very serious for us. But when he becomes president, it totally changes the game because he is now president of the United States. He will immediately start receiving classified briefings. He will be exposed to the most sensitive secrets imaginable. And if there is anyone in his team who is knowingly or unknowingly working with the Russians, it is very serious.

And so what this reflects, that's what I say, he will not be elected. So, let's not burn – I think this, in particular, was whether we were using some investigative methods that could be– "(The page paused to say that she wanted to be available but she was subject to certain constraints so as not to interfere with ongoing investigations.)

In any case, this reflects: let's be reasonable, do not start a kitchen sink because it will probably not be elected, and we will not have a threat as terrible for national security as if we do He is elected.

At a public hearing held on July 12, 2018, Peter Strzok explained the "insurance policy" in the same way that Page had done:

This text represented a debate on information we had received from an extremely sensitive source and method, and that generally, when something is so sensitive, if you act accordingly, you endanger it. . And so there is a tension there. We should perhaps, as you know, very slowly, conduct a typical three- or four-year counterintelligence investigation, because the more aggressive you are, the more you endanger it.What – and some people said that, some people said, "Hey, look, every poll says that the Trump candidate may not win." Every Republican said that. Some people have said that as a result of this, let's not risk the source, let's go slowly.

What I advocated, what I say, is that we are the FBI. We must do our job. We must go investigate. Although, according to all pollsters and everyone, the Trump candidate is elected, he should be careful to protect America. We must investigate these charges responsibly and aggressively, because you know that if the Trump candidate is elected, we may need to investigate people who could be appointed to important national security positions.

Everyone in America would like to know. The candidate Trump would like to know.